Pro-WHAT?!?!?!
Oct. 9th, 2002 11:09 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
beandelphikiPro-Life...
Give me a break.
[Before I get going on this rant, allow me one caveat; I don't support abortion as a form of BIRTH CONTROL. Thank you.]
So, yeah, let's see...
Whenever I get into an argument with someone about abortion in rl, they usually end up asking me how I feel about the idea that I could have been aborted. (RL arguments go so much faster, though.) I thought I'd address that first.
My mother had me when she was 19 years old. I'm sure a least a couple of people told me to abort her. Yup, I could have been aborted. I might not be here right now! What a concept to contemplate!
I mean, think about it...if I had been aborted:
I wouldn't have lived hand-to-mouth in a little roach-infested white-trash apartment.
I wouldn't have had abusive parents.
I wouldn't have been a complete social outcast for the first 9 years of my schooling.
I wouldn't have been molested.
I would never have had to be cold in the winter when we couldn't afford warmer clothes.
I would never have attended a crappy lower-end school.
I wouldn't have ever been depressed, or dropped out.
I wouldn't be dealing with gender issues.
How lucky I am to be alive!
[/sarcasm]
I should have been aborted. I've said that many a time to people in rl, and I'll keep right on saying it. I stand by that firmly.
As for abortion, I would abort any kid I got pregnant with, and I have many, many reasons.
Reason 1 - Adoption is a Crapshoot
Pretty plain and simple, right? I would not send a kid off to some stranger, and never know what was happening in their lives, or if they were suffering the same abuse I did.
I also would not trust open adoption. I've seen my parents convince other adults they are saints. So fuck that.
Reason 2 - Various Trans Issues
I would never, ever, under any circumstances, have vaginal sex with a man. Therefore, in order to get pregnant, I would have to be raped.
So,
1) I don't consider any child to come from that to be my responsibility.
2) I don't care about any "right to life." That's fucking bullshit. I have a right not to be violated, as does everyone.
I will not be pregnant and live as a pregnant woman. I made this decision two years ago, and I'll never go back on it.
I will never risk birthing hips. Period.
Someone called this selfish; well, guess what? What's a human fetus? A parasite, baby. Takes, but doesn't give. I don't need no parasites.
...Selfish? It would destroy me, mentally, to carry a child. How the fuck is it selfish to know your limits and follow them? Those are the actions of a wise man.
...And cowardly? (Second charge.) Christ...see above.
Reason 3 - Financial Concerns
My parents were children when they had me. They had no money. As I said before, we live with roaches in our food. I'm not trying to play this up, it's just a fact. All I heard throughout my childhood was an endless litany of, "we can't afford it"s.
When and if I'm a parent, I will NEVER put my child through that. I want my kid to have opportunities. To learn to play a musical instrument if they want. Take lessons in something. Play sports - and some are expensive.
I want to send my kids to a good school. I want them to have warm clothes when they need it. And I will not compromise.
...I've said it once; I'll say it again. Better a short, painless death than a long miserable life.
Over, out.
Give me a break.
[Before I get going on this rant, allow me one caveat; I don't support abortion as a form of BIRTH CONTROL. Thank you.]
So, yeah, let's see...
Whenever I get into an argument with someone about abortion in rl, they usually end up asking me how I feel about the idea that I could have been aborted. (RL arguments go so much faster, though.) I thought I'd address that first.
My mother had me when she was 19 years old. I'm sure a least a couple of people told me to abort her. Yup, I could have been aborted. I might not be here right now! What a concept to contemplate!
I mean, think about it...if I had been aborted:
I wouldn't have lived hand-to-mouth in a little roach-infested white-trash apartment.
I wouldn't have had abusive parents.
I wouldn't have been a complete social outcast for the first 9 years of my schooling.
I wouldn't have been molested.
I would never have had to be cold in the winter when we couldn't afford warmer clothes.
I would never have attended a crappy lower-end school.
I wouldn't have ever been depressed, or dropped out.
I wouldn't be dealing with gender issues.
How lucky I am to be alive!
[/sarcasm]
I should have been aborted. I've said that many a time to people in rl, and I'll keep right on saying it. I stand by that firmly.
As for abortion, I would abort any kid I got pregnant with, and I have many, many reasons.
Reason 1 - Adoption is a Crapshoot
Pretty plain and simple, right? I would not send a kid off to some stranger, and never know what was happening in their lives, or if they were suffering the same abuse I did.
I also would not trust open adoption. I've seen my parents convince other adults they are saints. So fuck that.
Reason 2 - Various Trans Issues
I would never, ever, under any circumstances, have vaginal sex with a man. Therefore, in order to get pregnant, I would have to be raped.
So,
1) I don't consider any child to come from that to be my responsibility.
2) I don't care about any "right to life." That's fucking bullshit. I have a right not to be violated, as does everyone.
I will not be pregnant and live as a pregnant woman. I made this decision two years ago, and I'll never go back on it.
I will never risk birthing hips. Period.
Someone called this selfish; well, guess what? What's a human fetus? A parasite, baby. Takes, but doesn't give. I don't need no parasites.
...Selfish? It would destroy me, mentally, to carry a child. How the fuck is it selfish to know your limits and follow them? Those are the actions of a wise man.
...And cowardly? (Second charge.) Christ...see above.
Reason 3 - Financial Concerns
My parents were children when they had me. They had no money. As I said before, we live with roaches in our food. I'm not trying to play this up, it's just a fact. All I heard throughout my childhood was an endless litany of, "we can't afford it"s.
When and if I'm a parent, I will NEVER put my child through that. I want my kid to have opportunities. To learn to play a musical instrument if they want. Take lessons in something. Play sports - and some are expensive.
I want to send my kids to a good school. I want them to have warm clothes when they need it. And I will not compromise.
...I've said it once; I'll say it again. Better a short, painless death than a long miserable life.
Over, out.
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Date: 2002-10-09 10:42 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2002-10-09 10:50 pm (UTC)(ps -- when i first read your sentence "any kid i got pregnant with" my reaction was what the fuck? guys can't get preg-- ooohhh yeeeeahh. :p)
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Date: 2002-10-09 11:06 pm (UTC)I agree with you, it comes down to personal choice mostly, but what kind of life would you be bringing this kid into when your say only 18 or so, your boyfriend just left you and you can barley support your self, what kind of child hood would it have. I couldn't stand having my child go through something like I went through as a kid, and it wasn't even as bad as that, it was only the divorce and not ahving much money thing.
Granted though If I did get someone pregnant I wouldn't take off if they decided to keep it, because ultimatly (and to a certain extent unfairly) it does happen to be the chicks choice. I want my kid to have both a mother and a father, even if theres no love between us, but first and formost the thoughts of the child must always be put first, if u don't think you can emotionally handle it, what makes u think u can emotionaly handle a child... in a way it can be more selfish to keep it than have an abortion, and i would never give MY hild up for adoption, i wouldn't beable to live with my self.
If people have religious reasons not to, well then fine be it, but i'm not even getting into my whole religion is a security blanket rant, so untill then, these are my thoughts, not yours, so go cuffuffle up a gum tree :)
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Date: 2002-10-09 11:34 pm (UTC)(((Dan)))
Date: 2002-10-10 01:15 am (UTC)*hugs*
Frank
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Date: 2002-10-10 04:07 am (UTC)My birth mom got pregnant at 16. My birth father abandoned her, and her parents refused to help. This was in 1974. So she put me up for adoption.
My adoptive family...not good. Like you, I was molested (by a friend of the family), was seriously depressed (6 suicide attempts), etc.
I met my birth family recently, my mother and her brother and his family... and dammit, I would've fit *in* there. They would have understood me.... but I can never tell them that...
So. In 1994, I was raped. A month later, I discovered I was pregnant... 50/50 chance of the sperm donor being either the rapist or my then-boyfriend.
I kept the baby. Why? Because I'd had three miscarriages and didn't know if I could ever successfully have a baby, and because I figured that all things have a reason, and because she already felt like a *person* to me. And yes, this is the famous Elayna.
Keep in mind, I'm *not* anti-abortion; some of my best friends (yeah, I know, but it's true!) have had abortions. And for them, it was the right thing to do. Just thought I'd share my perspective...
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Date: 2002-10-10 09:58 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2002-10-10 05:37 pm (UTC)(I had mostly the same reaction as isadora)
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Date: 2002-10-10 11:35 pm (UTC)I'm with you...if I did'nt have the means to provide for it, I would probably abort it, rather than let it lead a miserable life. To be quite honest, I have had 2 of them, both almost ten years ago. It didn't "scar" me or anything like that, like the pro-life advocates would tell you. If I were to get pregnant unexpectedly, which I am very careful about not allowing to happen, these days I would go ahead with the pregnancy because we could provide. The only reason I would choose abortion is if it tested positive for genetic abnormalties...something we had a problem with with a child in 1998. But overall, I believe the choice should be up to the individual, by all means.