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WOW. SO MUCH DRAMA in lj-land last night. I didn't get any schoolin' done.

So...people outside of [livejournal.com profile] feminist have been complaining for ages that the community lets white privilege run unchecked, and that it's exclusionary to women of color. The mods decide to fix this.

[livejournal.com profile] welsey makes a mod post explaining the new rules.

Based on some feedback, here are definitions of racism and sexism as we are using them. We are aware of the dictionary definition; however, we have chosen to use this definition because it is commonly used in anti-racist and social justice communities, and we ask that you also use it while you are in our space. More clarification may be added later:
racism = prejudice + power
sexism = prejudice + power

We separate these things from prejudice because the implications of racism and sexism (as we define them) are so much more significant and powerful than those of prejudice.


[...]

Reverse racism is not a valid concept.


And [livejournal.com profile] feminist go BOOM.

People disagree, whine, complain, and just generally miss the entire point.

I replied, basically telling the mods pip-pip and good job, and I was sorry they were taking so much crap from the uninformed. I should have realized that would cause a shitload of drama, but didn't really. That also went BOOM.

(Can anybody tell that I have very, very little patience? Yeah. I think I really got off on the wrong foot with the "dingdingding" comment, but really...when someone says that OMG! You're calling all the [white, because that's what I meant] people who disagree with anti-racism rules racist! the snark just tends to come out.)

They're/we're up to 700 comments now. I started replying because I said that I did not want to leave the mods fighting this one alone. I am almost sorry at this point; my inbox is pleading with me to stop, so I'm mostly going to bow out and see how it plays.

Over on journalfen, OTF_Wank is having a real laugh at our expense.

(First comment: "[livejournal.com profile] beandelphiki is a moron." I think I also got called a "Feminazi," the logic of which makes my brain hurt. I thought that if I ever got called THAT, it would be for arguing hard-line pro-choice or something, not critical race theory. OKAY!)

More fallout:

[livejournal.com profile] blackfolk: Nice try guys, but you still SUCK.

[livejournal.com profile] sex_and_race/[livejournal.com profile] feminist_rage: See, this is why we're all in HERE, instead of over THERE. (Idiots.)

[livejournal.com profile] ap_racism: Okay, nothing yet, but I'm waiting on the "GAAAH!" reaction. SOMEBODY will say something, I'm sure.


*sits and looks at this mess*

You know, I think it's a good thing I will be busy working a lot during Christmas, and staying (for the most part) far away from lj. MY BRAIN.


Edit: Yes, I'm white. Jeebus. (And if you don't know why I added this, don't worry, just ignore.)

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Date: 2005-12-14 03:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theclamsman.livejournal.com

*am still reading your wanky wank*

ha, I don't know if I'd even get in with my interests listed. XD! I could try, but I dunno if I'd be able to survive the testosterone-cannibalizing "womyn" there.

And have I mentioned lately how much I despise that stupid gender lingo, i.e. "hir" and "ze" and all of that shit? I do. I despise it. Which would probably make them all despise me. XD!!!

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Date: 2005-12-14 03:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beandelphiki.livejournal.com
I'll use it if someone identifies that way; I think that's basic respect. I take the stance that I'll use their pronouns if they use mine.

Otherwise, I figure "they" works perfectly fine.

Although I did prefer to be referred to as "hir" and "s/he" rather than the "she"s I got in there. "She" makes my eyes twitch; at least the person who used "hir" realized that they had no fucking clue what my gender is.

The majority, I think, don't use "womyn." A few over in fem_rage do, and I just ignore them. Talk about missing the whole point.

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