DUUUUDE!!!

[beandelphiki]

Many thanks to siegeengine and whoever it was that posted in his journal this link: www.intp.org

I'm an INTP, and I LOVE description I found on this site! It's so me!

I wondered while reading it, though, if I might contradict the description a little bit, what with my opinionated-ness, and all...

Since accurate analysis needs to avoid becoming hampered with details or being influenced by the actions of others, the INTP invariably seeks to withdraw, at least in spirit, from the situation being considered. This detachment can sometimes be so marked that he will readily see himself as a neutral observer having no personal association with that going on around him (unless forced to become directly involved through an attack on his principles). The INTP enjoys speculating about how a news item (for example) might be received by other people or how a point of view might offend certain types of people and be supported by yet other types; but to have a point of view of his own rarely seems relevant!

But then I saw this:

Where the extraversion of the iNtuition function becomes obvious is during discussions, especially heated ones. In contrast to INTJs, an INTP will often make controversial, speculative points of argument, often annoying the discussion-partner, and make them in such a way as to leave the impression that he is very serious about what he says. In reality, the INTP is not actually even certain himself whether he really stands by what he is saying, but his Ne strongly suggests that there must be a core of truth there. The purpose then of his outspoken style of argument is to sharpen his own intuitive understanding by testing the reaction of the listener, and indeed to examine the logic of his own arguments in real time while speaking them out. On occasion, INTPs may seem brash and tactless, but for themselves it is part of their way of getting closer to the truth.

Ha...I totally do that! That doesn't cover my "whatever, like, N-O!" thing I got going on, but I know I do that do. Hmm, maybe there's more. I'm not done reading, but I wanted to share that.

I wonder what the world would be like if everyone understood everyone else's basic motivations?

Comments

MBTI

[siegeengine.livejournal.com]

Hee! I'm glad you liked it!
Oh, and it was my dear friend, ratkrycek :)

Oh, I don't think it would change much if we all knew about each other's personalities and motivations. The problem is... we could know about them, but we couldn't really understand them. At least, not in the same way that each person understands their own personality.

Like, reading the descriptions you quoted, I could definitely see you in there, but it didn't help me really understand what the world was like from your shoes. Maybe I'm just too short-sighted.

It's just that, whenever I read someone else writing about their personality... I just don't usually get it. *sigh* I probably don't make any sense...

NEway, Yay!! for you and INTP's!!

[fenobarbidoll.livejournal.com]

I usually make a strong attempt to understand everyone and their motivations, and if you really pay attention to someone and try to see things from their point of view, it works. I think a lot of people have trouble doing that though. You kind of have to have a good imagination I suppose. It really does make relations with others easier.

There's nothing wrong with being opinonated:) I like reading your posts.

[poopsmoothie.livejournal.com]

I used to be an INTP, but I've been an INFP for a couple of years. goddamned hormones.

[indicoyote.livejournal.com]

I went from INTP to INFP too. And not because of hormones (I don't think)

[beandelphiki.livejournal.com]

Eeek, the Thinking-Feeling scale! I think that's my MOST inflexible scale, really. The whole idea of making decisions based on emotion really makes me recoil, personally. Not because it's bad (although subconsciously, I guess I do think that), but because I'd be so HORRIBLE at it.

[indicoyote.livejournal.com]

Hey, I never said _I_ was good at it either. ;o) Actually, I think the T/F is my most flexible one. It was the one that was closest to midline, on the test I took, if I remember correctly. But I do think the INFP descriptions I've read describe me tbe best, these days. But.. I like to think that I'm also able to.. well.. think, pretty decently, just in general, if not necessarily applying it to personal descisions.

Whee, now I'm rambling. :oP

[senchen.livejournal.com]

It would be irritating, because everyone would be trying to predict you, and whenever you acted contrary to type they'd be all surprised. Which you would do, sometimes even on purpose, because nobody likes to be subject to someone else's sophomoric predictions/dismissals.

[beandelphiki.livejournal.com]

Well, I don't think basic motivations are the same thing as personal traits and mannerisms, particular ways of doing things, or personal views. Those can all change.

But my most basic motivation is to analyze everything, and make it fit a logical construct, and that hasn't changed in my whole life, I think.