Newsflash for some idiots out there:
Apr. 20th, 2005 01:49 pmIf you do not want to be called a bigot, don't DO or SAY bigoted things.
See how easy that is?
Edit I + II: [with Copied Comment]
This post is really in response to something of a war that went down in a journal on my friends list. Essentially, the OP is mad about rabid childfree folk. (For example, people who think that jokes about coathangers are funny. Um...? For one thing, that's incredibly offensive when you consider how much women's reproductive choices are being threatened in America right now. You'd think CF people would CARE about that...right? Huh.)
So, then someone else got pissy because people - shock! - don't like it when other people use bigoted language like, "breeders." Oh, and also? It's perfectly okay to denigrate the efforts of a mother who breaks her BACK trying to make her ADHD and ODD kid a responsible member of society. Because her kid might just, y'know, kick up a fuss in a store and ruin ten minutes out of someone's day before she can drag him out kicking and screaming, to go back home where she deals with it ALL DAY.
Some people shouldn't have kids.
Others? Shouldn't have been born.
Added:
My main comment on that post:
In response to all the complete crap that people spout about terms like "moos" and "breeders"...
I don't bloody well CARE what your reasons are for saying those things. They are NOT OKAY. I don't CARE what your justifications are ("not all parents are breeeders!"), it's NOT OKAY. Calling a mother a misogynistic thing like "moo" is NOT OKAY, and calling fathers "duds" doesn't make it okay either. Saying something bigoted is NOT OKAY.
Don't feed me a bunch of nonsense about how not all parents are breeders. It doesn't matter. If a parent is an awful parent, simply say they are an awful parent. The misogyny and slam on reproductive choices implicit in these terms is NOT OKAY. It's bigoted. And you really, really should STOP.
Also, I like the OP's comment that the idea that parents who can't control their children are bad parents with bratty children leads to the idea that an "autistic child in meltdown" or an "overstimulated kid with ADHD" = "undisciplined brat." I think parents of non-NT children shovel ENOUGH shit before they even get crap like this.
See how easy that is?
Edit I + II: [with Copied Comment]
This post is really in response to something of a war that went down in a journal on my friends list. Essentially, the OP is mad about rabid childfree folk. (For example, people who think that jokes about coathangers are funny. Um...? For one thing, that's incredibly offensive when you consider how much women's reproductive choices are being threatened in America right now. You'd think CF people would CARE about that...right? Huh.)
So, then someone else got pissy because people - shock! - don't like it when other people use bigoted language like, "breeders." Oh, and also? It's perfectly okay to denigrate the efforts of a mother who breaks her BACK trying to make her ADHD and ODD kid a responsible member of society. Because her kid might just, y'know, kick up a fuss in a store and ruin ten minutes out of someone's day before she can drag him out kicking and screaming, to go back home where she deals with it ALL DAY.
Some people shouldn't have kids.
Others? Shouldn't have been born.
Added:
My main comment on that post:
In response to all the complete crap that people spout about terms like "moos" and "breeders"...
I don't bloody well CARE what your reasons are for saying those things. They are NOT OKAY. I don't CARE what your justifications are ("not all parents are breeeders!"), it's NOT OKAY. Calling a mother a misogynistic thing like "moo" is NOT OKAY, and calling fathers "duds" doesn't make it okay either. Saying something bigoted is NOT OKAY.
Don't feed me a bunch of nonsense about how not all parents are breeders. It doesn't matter. If a parent is an awful parent, simply say they are an awful parent. The misogyny and slam on reproductive choices implicit in these terms is NOT OKAY. It's bigoted. And you really, really should STOP.
Also, I like the OP's comment that the idea that parents who can't control their children are bad parents with bratty children leads to the idea that an "autistic child in meltdown" or an "overstimulated kid with ADHD" = "undisciplined brat." I think parents of non-NT children shovel ENOUGH shit before they even get crap like this.